« EXPLODING, FERTILE HEADS. | Main | "REMOVE CHILD BEFORE FOLDING" »

November 16, 2009

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451fc7a69e2012875aabb2f970c

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference CHILDFREE & CHILDLESS WOMEN BATTLE IT OUT WITH "THE MOMMIES"...:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Pamela Tsigdinos

Thanks for the shout out, Tiffany. I will fully admit that I get more than a little hot under the collar when I see my counterparts breezily assume that having children is a given if you time it right. There's a laundry list of inhibitors -- far beyond the biological clock -- as those of us diagnosed by reproductive endocrinologists know only too well. In my research about attitudes held about those without children, I stumbled across this quote concerning a book called The Baby Boon: How Family-Friendly America Cheats the Childless:

"Burkett's most contentious views are those attacking deeply held beliefs that there is something morally superior about having children, and what she sees as an ingrained prejudice against the childless."

I have to agree with Burkett. It's hard not to push back when you feel like you've been sucker punched or disrespected for being childless...

Now time for an herbal tea -- or better yet a glass of wine!

magdalen - tiffany

pamela, i totally hear ya --- when a newspaper did an article about my art/writing projects that stem from the childless experience, a commenter said something like, "She's not bad looking. She could get a husband, drink a glass of wine, and get pregnant!" the comment was so troll-like and stupid i probably shouldn't even bother to THINK about it... but people really do think such things. can i hear a "DUH"??

i've done a whole lot of "pushing back" as you put it, and i'll probably do more. in general, i'm at a place in life where i'm just reconsidering how much of my loudmouth pushback is effective, and how much of it is me flailing around and yelling. i have a temper, so it's hard to mellow out; but i think *strategically* it would be to our advantage. it's hard to demand respect from people we don't respect.

burkett's book is pretty cool, though it's kind of too one-sided and harsh, unlikely to change the minds of people who've already made up their minds. "The Baby Boon" seems like a good kickstart, though, for the new era of making ourselves heard about childless/childfree/etc issues, in contrast to the 1970s battles and Zero Population Growth advocates.

i really like this one, because she is formerly infertile and now "in the mommy club," yet is unafraid to outline the ways society is prejudiced against the childless: Cain, Madelyn. The Childless Revolution. New York: Da Capo, 2002. (i think the Burkitt book really had to come first, before something like the Cain book could happen...)

thanks for commenting! i love your blog.

umber

Great piece. Makes me wonder once again what would the world be like if women supported one another.

Sue

Thanks for the mention. I am childless, but not by choice. I am physically unable to carry. Too many people, especially, parents have no idea what it is like... how much your heart breaks for the child you will never have. I'm not calling all parents ungrateful, but there are many out there... who say things like , "want my kid, he's a pain in my butt." Here's to helping everyone understand the hurt in the world.

magdalen - tiffany

it hurts to have them, hurts not to have them, and hurts all of us that we get so easily triggered about anything around parenting or notparenting... i guess it's just too primal an issue to treat lightly or without working really hard to understand the pain and triggeriness people go through.

god knows i did a terrible job of it, for years. probably still do. someone got mad at me for saying "anklebiters" the other day, referring to kids or toddlers i assume (i couldn't figure out when or where i had allegedly said it). to me, the thought of saying ankle biter or rugrat being triggery, mean, and offensive was just bizarre. but like you say, there is hurt in the world and we have to understand it.

it IS hard to decide how far to go with censoring ourselves, though. my mere existence is always going to trigger something in someone. being a writer, artist, and blogger, i'm totally gonna trigger stuff, because i'm not hiding in a cave all by myself, where i can't hurt anybody but myself...

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

NYMPHE RESOURCES & INFO